From ammire at gmail.com  Wed Aug  2 11:34:40 2006
From: ammire at gmail.com (Reza)
Date: Wed Aug  2 11:34:43 2006
Subject: [pdp-discuss] Linux Problem
Message-ID: <9e6aab2c0608021034y773f860dnd275c33fd9ef63b9@mail.gmail.com>

I've installed Linux (Fedora Core 5) on my lapto and have also installed the
PDP++ software using the automated .rpm installer (pdp++-
binext-3.1-0.i386.rpm). I am pretty sure the installation was completed
properly because I was prompted to enter root password in order to continue
the installation, and that the program seems to have been installed in
/usr/local/pdp++, with the executables in the /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX
folder. the problem that I am having is that I am uanble to launch any of
the executables from /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX, and there seems to have
been no program group created in the "Applications" drop down menu on the
Panel. when I try to run any of the executables from the console, I get the
following message: "error while loading shared libraries: libpdp.so: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory"
Any help/advice to overcome this problem will be greatly appreciated.
Reza
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From baisa at colorado.edu  Wed Aug  2 15:03:06 2006
From: baisa at colorado.edu (Brad Aisa)
Date: Wed Aug  2 15:03:09 2006
Subject: [pdp-discuss] Linux Problem
In-Reply-To: <9e6aab2c0608021034y773f860dnd275c33fd9ef63b9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9e6aab2c0608021034y773f860dnd275c33fd9ef63b9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200608021503.06822.baisa@colorado.edu>

Hi Reza,

Sorry you're having difficulties. Randy (who did the pdp v3.2 
installer) may commment as well, but I thought I might be able 
to help...

Before trying to start pdp at the console, try typing this first:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX

If that works, then you can add this to your .bashrc file in your 
home folder:

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX

if you already have a LD_LIBRARY_PATH in that file, you can add 
as follows (i.e., put the new stuff, then a colon, then the 
existing stuff)

export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/$CPU:existingstuff


On Wednesday 02 August 2006 11:34, Reza wrote:
> I've installed Linux (Fedora Core 5) on my lapto and have also
> installed the PDP++ software using the automated .rpm
> installer (pdp++- binext-3.1-0.i386.rpm). I am pretty sure the
> installation was completed properly because I was prompted to
> enter root password in order to continue the installation, and
> that the program seems to have been installed in
> /usr/local/pdp++, with the executables in the
> /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX folder. the problem that I am
> having is that I am uanble to launch any of the executables
> from /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX, and there seems to have been
> no program group created in the "Applications" drop down menu
> on the Panel. when I try to run any of the executables from
> the console, I get the following message: "error while loading
> shared libraries: libpdp.so: cannot open shared object file:
> No such file or directory"
> Any help/advice to overcome this problem will be greatly
> appreciated. Reza

-- 
Brad Aisa <baisa at colorado dot edu>
Professional Research Assistant
Department of Psychology
University of Colorado - Boulder
From kamps at in.tum.de  Thu Aug  3 09:22:12 2006
From: kamps at in.tum.de (Marc de Kamps)
Date: Thu Aug  3 10:04:23 2006
Subject: [pdp-discuss] Where are the chapter_* projects?
Message-ID: <000001c6b710$97f148d0$383c9f83@atknoll3>

Hi,

I just installed PDP++ under windows using the pdp++_3.1_setup.exe.
This works and I find that I can do the stuff described in Appendix A, B, as
well as play with the xor project as described in manual.

What I can't find is the projects that are described in the indivdual book
chapters. I can't find unit.proj.gz for example. I checked some of the other
distribution tars but it doesn't seem to be included anywhere.

Am I overlooking something?

Best regards,
	Marc

From baisa at colorado.edu  Thu Aug  3 13:52:01 2006
From: baisa at colorado.edu (Brad Aisa)
Date: Thu Aug  3 13:52:04 2006
Subject: [pdp-discuss] Where are the chapter_* projects?
In-Reply-To: <000001c6b710$97f148d0$383c9f83@atknoll3>
References: <000001c6b710$97f148d0$383c9f83@atknoll3>
Message-ID: <200608031352.01143.baisa@colorado.edu>

Hi Marc,

You could download the simulations themselves using this link:

ftp://grey.colorado.edu/pub/oreilly/cog_neuro_sims/sims_1.30.tar.gz

Sorry for the confusion -- we'll look into this.

On Thursday 03 August 2006 09:22, Marc de Kamps wrote:
> I just installed PDP++ under windows using the
> pdp++_3.1_setup.exe. This works and I find that I can do the
> stuff described in Appendix A, B, as well as play with the xor
> project as described in manual.
>
> What I can't find is the projects that are described in the
> indivdual book chapters. I can't find unit.proj.gz for
> example. I checked some of the other distribution tars but it
> doesn't seem to be included anywhere.
>
> Am I overlooking something?

-- 
Brad Aisa <baisa at colorado dot edu>
Professional Research Assistant
Department of Psychology
University of Colorado - Boulder
From ammire at gmail.com  Sun Aug  6 20:48:42 2006
From: ammire at gmail.com (Reza)
Date: Sun Aug  6 20:48:44 2006
Subject: [pdp-discuss] Linux Problem
In-Reply-To: <200608021503.06822.baisa@colorado.edu>
References: <9e6aab2c0608021034y773f860dnd275c33fd9ef63b9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200608021503.06822.baisa@colorado.edu>
Message-ID: <9e6aab2c0608061948o5bee0140p8550ab8a1079b21c@mail.gmail.com>

Brad,
Thank you but I tried this and I am still unable to launch the application.
Reza


On 8/2/06, Brad Aisa <baisa@colorado.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi Reza,
>
> Sorry you're having difficulties. Randy (who did the pdp v3.2
> installer) may commment as well, but I thought I might be able
> to help...
>
> Before trying to start pdp at the console, try typing this first:
>
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX
>
> If that works, then you can add this to your .bashrc file in your
> home folder:
>
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX
>
> if you already have a LD_LIBRARY_PATH in that file, you can add
> as follows (i.e., put the new stuff, then a colon, then the
> existing stuff)
>
> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/$CPU:existingstuff
>
>
> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 11:34, Reza wrote:
> > I've installed Linux (Fedora Core 5) on my lapto and have also
> > installed the PDP++ software using the automated .rpm
> > installer (pdp++- binext-3.1-0.i386.rpm). I am pretty sure the
> > installation was completed properly because I was prompted to
> > enter root password in order to continue the installation, and
> > that the program seems to have been installed in
> > /usr/local/pdp++, with the executables in the
> > /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX folder. the problem that I am
> > having is that I am uanble to launch any of the executables
> > from /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX, and there seems to have been
> > no program group created in the "Applications" drop down menu
> > on the Panel. when I try to run any of the executables from
> > the console, I get the following message: "error while loading
> > shared libraries: libpdp.so: cannot open shared object file:
> > No such file or directory"
> > Any help/advice to overcome this problem will be greatly
> > appreciated. Reza
>
> --
> Brad Aisa <baisa at colorado dot edu>
> Professional Research Assistant
> Department of Psychology
> University of Colorado - Boulder
> _______________________________________________
> PDP-Discuss mailing list
> PDP-Discuss@psych.Colorado.EDU
> http://psych.colorado.edu/mailman/listinfo/pdp-discuss
>
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From baisa at colorado.edu  Mon Aug  7 01:09:39 2006
From: baisa at colorado.edu (Brad Aisa)
Date: Mon Aug  7 01:10:00 2006
Subject: [pdp-discuss] Linux Problem
In-Reply-To: <9e6aab2c0608061948o5bee0140p8550ab8a1079b21c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9e6aab2c0608021034y773f860dnd275c33fd9ef63b9@mail.gmail.com>	<200608021503.06822.baisa@colorado.edu>
	<9e6aab2c0608061948o5bee0140p8550ab8a1079b21c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44D6E733.1090306@colorado.edu>

Hi Reza,

Make sure the libs, ex. libpdp.so actually exist in the dir:
/usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX -- if they are links, make sure that 
the files actually exist where they are pointing (sorry, not a 
3.2 guru, and no access to a system at the moment with it.)

If they do, I'm not quite sure why the LD_LIBRARY_PATH doesn't 
work. (Note: I made a mistake in my directions regarding the 
.bashrc file -- don't use $CPU -- just use LINUX -- but if it 
doesn't work at the console, it is not likely to work in .bashrc)

BTW, since I'm not sure of how familiar you are with Unix, I just 
want to make sure that you know that if you make a change to an 
environment variable, like VAR=value in the console, it only 
affects that specific console session, so you can't try running 
some other way. Also, when you make changes to .bashrc and other 
such files, they only affect *new* console sessions.

If none of the above helps...

You could try creating symbolic links to a location where the 
loader will look by default. I'm pretty sure it looks in the same 
folder as the bin, so you could try:

cd /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX
ln -s /usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX/lib* ./

(note: make sure links for all the libs appear, in case i've made 
a mistake in the syntax of the wildcard command)

or, as a last resort, you could try into a system lib folder:

cd /usr/lib
ln -s /usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX/lib* ./



Reza wrote:
> Brad,
> Thank you but I tried this and I am still unable to launch the application.
> Reza
> 
> 
> On 8/2/06, Brad Aisa <baisa@colorado.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Reza,
>>
>> Sorry you're having difficulties. Randy (who did the pdp v3.2
>> installer) may commment as well, but I thought I might be able
>> to help...
>>
>> Before trying to start pdp at the console, try typing this first:
>>
>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX
>>
>> If that works, then you can add this to your .bashrc file in your
>> home folder:
>>
>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/LINUX
>>
>> if you already have a LD_LIBRARY_PATH in that file, you can add
>> as follows (i.e., put the new stuff, then a colon, then the
>> existing stuff)
>>
>> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/pdp++/lib/$CPU:existingstuff
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 11:34, Reza wrote:
>> > I've installed Linux (Fedora Core 5) on my lapto and have also
>> > installed the PDP++ software using the automated .rpm
>> > installer (pdp++- binext-3.1-0.i386.rpm). I am pretty sure the
>> > installation was completed properly because I was prompted to
>> > enter root password in order to continue the installation, and
>> > that the program seems to have been installed in
>> > /usr/local/pdp++, with the executables in the
>> > /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX folder. the problem that I am
>> > having is that I am uanble to launch any of the executables
>> > from /usr/local/pdp++/bin/LINUX, and there seems to have been
>> > no program group created in the "Applications" drop down menu
>> > on the Panel. when I try to run any of the executables from
>> > the console, I get the following message: "error while loading
>> > shared libraries: libpdp.so: cannot open shared object file:
>> > No such file or directory"
>> > Any help/advice to overcome this problem will be greatly
>> > appreciated. Reza
>>
>> -- 
>> Brad Aisa <baisa at colorado dot edu>
>> Professional Research Assistant
>> Department of Psychology
>> University of Colorado - Boulder
>> _______________________________________________
>> PDP-Discuss mailing list
>> PDP-Discuss@psych.Colorado.EDU
>> http://psych.colorado.edu/mailman/listinfo/pdp-discuss
>>
> 
> 
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From kazmerkaradi at freemail.hu  Thu Aug 10 03:04:40 2006
From: kazmerkaradi at freemail.hu (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Kar=E1di_K=E1zm=E9r?=)
Date: Thu Aug 10 03:04:44 2006
Subject: [pdp-discuss] helping
Message-ID: <freemail.20060710110440.39059@fm16.freemail.hu>



Hello!


I have a little bit question. I would like to simulate the limbic 
encephalitis. In this disorder the votalge-gated potassium channels 
were knock out by antibodies. I build a hippocampus network and I 
would like to see how it learn after I knock out the voltage-gated 
potassium channels. However I see that the PDP++ have not this 
channel.  I decided that I knock out the g_bar_l channel. Is this channel 
consist of voltage-gated potassium channel? Is this good proximation 
of my problem?

Thanks: Kazmer

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